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What's up everyone? You're listening to DS106 Radio. DS106 for life.

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Hey everybody. This is Tim Clark and Taylor is with me here. Hello. And welcome

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to the next session. A real quick thanks to Dewitt's and Pate's. That was super fun.

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And nice audio production there. Very atmospheric. That was a really neat session.

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This one's going to be way worse, I promise. Entirely because of me.

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But before we get started, my inspiration for this was I really liked the idea for a track

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that allowed you to talk about the year that you've had. And the other thing that I really

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wanted to do was something that I thought Paul Bond would want to listen to. So a shout out to

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Paul. One of my DS106 and DS106 Radio heroes. He's a great DJ. He's a walking encyclopedia of good

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music and local radio. So I thought I'd play some blues because I know from time to time he's jumped

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on and turned me on to some really amazing blues and R&B artists. So I'm calling this the Austerity

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Blues. I did a very little bit of research for this. So I noticed as I was sort of searching

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around that there is a book called Austerity Blues that has to do with higher education. It was

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written, I believe, in 2016. And it addressed the sort of defunding of higher education across large

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university systems. So I think New York, California, and possibly Illinois. That's not what

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this is. This is hopefully kind of a sound off show. I'm going to put a phone number in the

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Discord channel here. And Taylor, what do you think? Are you up to give this a try? It might

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not work at all. >> Yeah, I can test it. Yeah.

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>> Or just to sort of ride this train with me. Okay, so the number is 267, and this is a US

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number, 267-227-0106. And it took me so long to game the Google Voice ecosystem to get a phone

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number that ended in 106. I'm really proud of that. So I hope that I can get someone at least

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to call in here in a little while. We're not ready just yet. But once we open up the lines,

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it would be really great. And I think we can pull it off. We'll see. If not, you know,

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nothing ventured, nothing gained. Okay, so just for a little bit of context, my name is Tim Clark.

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My official title is digital learning librarian. But I share with many of the folks over the last

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couple of days, a sort of instructional technologist, instructional designer role,

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as well as some librarian stuff. I oversee the Domain of One's Own project at the college where

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I work, Muhlenberg College in Allentown, Pennsylvania. And I've been there in various

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roles. I keep doing the same work. They just keep changing my title. I've been there for about 15

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years. >> That sounds familiar, I think, for lots of people, I imagine.

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>> Yeah. And we're a smallish private liberal arts school in eastern Pennsylvania, near New Jersey

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and New York. And there are lots of colleges and universities within our general vicinity,

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which is a great thing, I think. But over the last couple of years, I think it's contributed

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to this sense of competitiveness for what is perceived to be an ever shrinking pool of

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college age students. And so one of the straw men that I'd like to kind of knock down

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in this is talking about this notion of an enrollment cliff or a demographic cliff that's

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been kicking around, at least in the United States, for a while. I would imagine this is

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pretty much a U.S. centric sort of conversation. Hopefully, our friends elsewhere will find the

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music, at the least, entertaining. So anyway, in the post-COVID sort of financial anxiety

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and with nearby college and university closings and mergers, that's sort of a national thing as

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well. Again, this idea, what I think of as a sort of a fallacy around this idea of an enrollment

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cliff. My school has kicked off a sort of new round of the austerity blues. And so I thought,

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you know, I would draw on the blues for inspiration. And maybe if you all are experiencing

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something similar to this out there, you might have some insights and some observations and

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some strategies for coping with the austerity blues as well. Again, the number is 267-227-0106.

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And just to sort of set the musical stage here, I thought we might listen to a blues song and

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listen a little more closely than we might if we were just sort of driving or had music on in the

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background. I'm not an expert on the blues. I appreciate them very much. I can count 12 bars.

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That's about as far as I can go. And I can generally tell one style of blues from another,

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you know, if it's boogie woogie or, you know, those kinds of things.

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The thing about the blues that I appreciate the most, I think is, and this might be contrary to

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what some folks impression of the blues is, I find it to be very uplifting. It's a source of

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intelligent humor, resistance in the face of what I would consider nearly unimaginable hardship.

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It can't be overstated that the blues like jazz and hip hop is one of the greatest cultural

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contributions the United States has given to the world. And it's the African American musicians,

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and particularly Southern African Americans, those who are part of the great black diaspora,

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who invented and spread this musical form and made it central, really, I think, to the US

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musical experience. It's the ground stone, it's the cornerstone for bluegrass, for rock and roll,

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for so many other forms and genres of music.

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Almost any popular genre right now, honestly, and especially, particularly in Western hemisphere

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music, you can root part of it at least back to the blues, if not most of it. It's amazing.

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Yeah, yeah. I mean, it really, to me, pulling the call and response from West African music and

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integrating that gospel music, it's really, I think, like you said, something that can't be

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acknowledged enough. So I thought we would start with a song by Leroy Carr. He's on the piano and

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the vocalist, it's called Big Four Blues. This song is about 100 years old. And one of the great

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blues names I found, Scrapper Blackwell on guitar. So this one's for you, Paul. I hope you like it.

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Big four block this morning,

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Act V, break up day.

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Big four block this morning,

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Act V, break up day.

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And it sounds so lonesome, 'cause you're taking my baby away.

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Big four, big four, won't you please turn your train around?

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Big four, big four, won't you please turn your train around?

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'Cause I sat all down and out with my head hung down.

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I tried to be as good to that woman as one man could be.

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I tried to be as good to that woman as one man could be.

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And I mean it's a shame the way she went and left for me.

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Yes, I'm drowning out, ain't got no money to ride no train.

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Yes, I'm drowning out, ain't got no money to ride no train.

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Yes, I'm drowning out, ain't got no money to ride no train.

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Yes, I'm drowning out, ain't got no money to ride no train.

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So what'd you think?

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First of all, I've never heard that one.

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And I wouldn't call myself super knowledgeable about the blues,

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but I enjoy it a lot.

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And saxophone is my main instrument that I play.

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And so I like playing it, but I'm, again, not very knowledgeable.

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But I love blues guitar, specifically, I will say.

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It's probably my favorite, especially older blues stuff.

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So yeah, loved it.

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Yeah.

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So I thought, from a close listening, I'm just really curious to the other

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listeners out there, do you feel it?

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Do you feel the familiarity of the form?

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Do you know how to anticipate maybe the chord changes or the way,

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at the end of 12 bars, it sort of walks back around to the beginning?

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Even the way it sort of resolves at the end of the song

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is very comforting and familiar.

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And I think that's the great contradiction.

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That's the magic of the blues, is the subject matter can be really sad,

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right?

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He's lost the love of his life.

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She's jumped on a train, and he doesn't have the money

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to buy a ticket to follow her.

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And he's asking, hey, can you just look the other way

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and let me hop on this train?

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And the brakeman is turning him away and saying, get out of here.

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That's a really sad story, right?

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It's complex.

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But because you're, I feel, sharing this story with the singer,

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you're kind of sort of shouldering it together.

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And also, the familiarity of blues music

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means that you're participating in a way that's different, I think,

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than other forms of music, where you really

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don't know what's coming next.

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Or there are more possibilities.

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It's a larger sort of--

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there's not just left and right that you can choose from,

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like a choose-your-own-adventure, right?

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Well, absolutely.

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And building on that, a huge part of blues

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is that it's improvisational, right?

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Or parts of it can be, right?

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So either, obviously, like examples of music

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that have solo sections in them, of course, right?

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But even the songs themselves are likely built on improvisations

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that are made possible by that familiar and easy-to-grasp

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structure you're talking about.

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And I think that itself has--

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I mean, you can sit here and draw a million parallels between that

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and how education works, right?

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In ways that I love and I think speak to even some fundamental things

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we know about learning and how people learn.

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Yeah, that's absolutely true.

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And I think the major sort of thing I'd like to sort of place out there

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to kick around for the next 45 minutes or so

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is this notion of catharsis, right?

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How that feels to us, to feel connected, to feel like we can anticipate.

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And even just as a listener, there's a participatory sense to the blues

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that I think is different from other genres of music.

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And so piggybacking on top of that, if you're

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at an institution that's stuck in the austerity blues,

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if you're hearing things like tuition-driven institution

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or maximizing return on investment and all

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of these sorts of neoliberal buzzwords that

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tend to find their way into the conversation when you come down

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with the austerity flu, when your institution is in the austerity blues,

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that notion of call and response, knowing what to anticipate,

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knowing how to improvise within the framework of what you're provided,

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all of those things I think are really helpful strategies and lessons

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for how to keep your spirits up, how to maybe not take the bait for some

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of the things that an administration might ask of a faculty or a staff,

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how to prepare in advance if you're seemingly caught off guard with something

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that's happening, if you recognize it within the sort of paradigm of the blues,

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then you know what the response is.

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You know how to be improvisational in those moments

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because you're following along the pattern that

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has repeated itself in higher education many times over the last 35, 40 years.

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That's kind of where I'm coming from with the rest of this.

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But I have talked an awful lot.

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Does that seem like a pretty good setup, Taylor, for the next few songs?

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All right.

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So let's do it.

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I'm going to play a song by a man named Corey Harris.

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He is a Bates College graduate, another fine, small liberal arts school in Maine.

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He is also the recipient of a MacArthur Genius Grant.

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And he is an incredible musician.

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So we're going to hear "Fish Ain't Biting" from Corey Harris.

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- Check it.

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Give a man a--

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fish.

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Teach him how to fish.

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Bring the whole school to his door.

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But what's he going to do when the water dry up and the fish ain't biting no

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more?

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[MUSIC - COREY HARRIS, "FISH AIN'T BITING"]

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[MUSIC - COREY HARRIS, "FISH AIN'T BITING"]

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Fish ain't biting.

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Fish ain't biting 'round here no more.

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Well, fish ain't biting.

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Fish ain't biting no more.

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They're taking up the catfish and grinding up the bone.

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Well, I was down East Texas, Jefferson Town.

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I had no catfish.

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Had to turn around.

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Well, fish ain't biting.

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Fish ain't biting no more.

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Taking up the catfish and grinding up the bone.

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Well, the Reverend Worm got him a catfish farm.

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He said, boy, hook the worm and let the line on down.

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Fish ain't biting, baby.

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Fish ain't biting no more.

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Taking up the catfish and grinding up the bone.

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[MUSIC - COREY HARRIS, "RED RIVER RUNNING DEEP"]

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Red river running deep and wide.

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See my baby on the other side.

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Well, fish ain't biting.

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Fish ain't biting no more.

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Baby, pay my back.

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Baby, baby, leave Texas on the next bay.

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Fish ain't biting.

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Fish ain't biting no more.

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They're taking up the catfish and grinding up the bone.

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Fish ain't biting.

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Fish ain't biting.

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Fish ain't biting round head no more.

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Fish ain't biting no more.

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All right now.

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They're taking up the catfish and grinding up the bone.

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Fish ain't biting.

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[MUSIC - COREY HARRIS, "RED RIVER RUNNING DEEP"]

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[MUSIC - COREY HARRIS, "RED RIVER RUNNING DEEP"]

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I never had a pocket full of money.

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I never had a ruby red ring.

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All I ever had was you, babe, to sit and listen to me sing.

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I've got the blues, the empty pocket blues.

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Well, I never had a barrel full of money.

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I never had a big head of land.

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All I ever had was you, babe, and that's a fact.

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I've got the blues, the empty pocket blues.

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Some people got barrels of money, bushels of ruby red rings.

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But they ain't got a man like mine,

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and they don't know how to sing.

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I've got the blues, the empty pocket blues.

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Now, some say the blues are sorrowful.

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Some say the blues are sad.

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But when I sing the blues to you,

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they come out feeling glad.

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I've got the blues, the empty pocket blues.

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Now, don't put your money in a barrel.

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Don't waste it on a ruby red ring.

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Give it all to your own little girl

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to fix your dinner while you sing.

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I've got the blues, the empty pocket blues.

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I've got the blues, the empty pocket blues.

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All right, welcome back.

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That was Odetta, the one and only remarkable queen

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of the blues, as I believe she's been called,

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National Medal of the Arts and Humanities recipient,

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Lifetime Achievement Award from the Library of Congress,

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numerous honorary degrees, and a proud graduate of Los Angeles

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City College with empty pocket blues.

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So let's see if anyone's brave enough to call in.

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If not, I've got a couple more songs to play,

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and we can take it from there.

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I do want to be clear that I'm not

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trying to make light of the serious state of finances

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for many colleges and universities.

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Here's just a real quick roll call

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from my region, the mid-Atlantic region of the United States.

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In 2022, these are all post-COVID mergers or closures.

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University of the Sciences merged

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with St. Joseph's University in Philadelphia.

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2,420 students were affected.

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In 2023, Bloomfield College in New Jersey closed abruptly.

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1,300 students thereabouts were affected.

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And then in 2024, Pennsylvania College of Health Sciences

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also merged with St. Joseph's University, 1,800-plus students.

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St. John's University, Staten Island,

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closed due to low enrollment.

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861 students were affected.

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The College of St. Rose in Albany, New York,

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closed because of financial insolvency, 2,786 students.

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Wells College in Aurora, New York,

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also financial difficulties, 357 students.

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And Cabrini University in Radnor Township, Pennsylvania,

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right down the road from where I live,

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closed for financial reasons, 2,267 students were affected.

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I think the one that shook our area the most,

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though, was the very abrupt closing of University

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of the Arts in Philadelphia.

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Over 1,300 students were impacted,

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many after they had already paid their deposits and tuition.

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And they cited accreditation, enrollment,

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and financial challenges.

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Lots of other colleges and universities

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have stepped up to be especially welcoming and accommodating

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with respect to transfers of credits and courses

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and those kinds of things.

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This is a significant issue.

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But I think we need to place at least partial responsibility

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where I feel it lies.

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And that's the significant disinvestment

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on part of state and federal governments in higher education

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broadly.

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I think one of the calls and responses in the Austerity

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Blues should be that education is a public good.

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And it benefits all of us, all of society.

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And the financial burdens that these colleges and universities

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are carrying have disproportionately

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been placed upon the students themselves,

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borrowing increasing amounts of money,

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making it much more challenging for them to start their lives.

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And some would argue that that is by design.

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So I just wanted to put that out there

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and to acknowledge those facts so

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that I wouldn't be misinterpreted as, say,

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maybe glib or paying too little attention to the challenges

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that colleges and universities face.

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Any thoughts about that, Taylor?

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Yeah, you see it all over, too.

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There's even just in--

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I'm in Wisconsin.

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And there's been plenty of that even in Wisconsin,

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which there's definitely less concentration of schools

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here than there is in your neck of the woods.

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But it's hitting hard, I think, everywhere.

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And it's hitting hard specifically--

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well, not specifically, but I will say especially

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the smaller schools, I think.

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And it's hard, because it's a number--

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there's a lot of reason--

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you mentioned before, right?

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Hey, we're experiencing lower enrollment.

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But there is a lot of specific factors, too, right?

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And it's very difficult or maybe complicated,

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I guess, to be paying attention to this stuff,

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because you're at any point dealing

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with a mixture of sadness around the state of things,

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anger at possibly leadership or any number of people

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or government or--

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yeah, there's a lot of things that you can be--

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you can place that--

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places you can place that anger, which that's

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what the blues is about, is that complicated malaise

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of feelings, I think.

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But yeah, I don't think you're being glib at all.

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I think there--

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I love that you're bringing the blues into this conversation.

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And this conversation that we're having

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as folks who work in and around higher ed, I think, constantly

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and recognizing of--

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we need an output in some ways that isn't just wallowing in it,

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I think.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Absolutely.

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And we need to share each other's burdens.

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And I think that's also what the blues is about.

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But as we'll hear in a couple of songs coming up,

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the blues is also about finding creative ways

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of getting around what seem to be intractable obstacles.

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So let's do that.

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Let's listen to one more song.

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This is "Gimme a Penny" by Big Mama Thornton.

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[MUSIC - BIG MAMA THORNTON, "GIMME A PENNY"]

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[MUSIC - BIG MAMA THORNTON, "GIMME A PENNY"]

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[MUSIC - BIG MAMA THORNTON, "GIMME A PENNY"]

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[MUSIC - BIG MAMA THORNTON, "GIMME A PENNY"]

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[MUSIC - BIG MAMA THORNTON, "GIMME A PENNY"]

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[MUSIC - BIG MAMA THORNTON, "GIMME A PENNY"]

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[MUSIC - BIG MAMA THORNTON, "GIMME A PENNY"]

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[MUSIC - BIG MAMA THORNTON, "GIMME A PENNY"]

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[MUSIC - BIG MAMA THORNTON, "GIMME A PENNY"]

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[MUSIC - BIG MAMA THORNTON, "GIMME A PENNY"]

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[MUSIC - BIG MAMA THORNTON, "GIMME A PENNY"]

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[MUSIC - BIG MAMA THORNTON, "GIMME A PENNY"]

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[MUSIC - BIG MAMA THORNTON, "GIMME A PENNY"]

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[MUSIC - BIG MAMA THORNTON, "GIMME A PENNY"]

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[MUSIC - BIG MAMA THORNTON, "GIMME A PENNY"]

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[MUSIC - BIG MAMA THORNTON, "GIMME A PENNY"]

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[MUSIC - BIG MAMA THORNTON, "GIMME A PENNY"]

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[MUSIC - BIG MAMA THORNTON, "GIMME A PENNY"]

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[MUSIC - BIG MAMA THORNTON, "GIMME A PENNY"]

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[MUSIC - BIG MAMA THORNTON, "GIMME A PENNY"]

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[MUSIC - BIG MAMA THORNTON, "GIMME A PENNY"]

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[MUSIC - BIG MAMA THORNTON, "GIMME A PENNY"]

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[MUSIC - BIG MAMA THORNTON, "GIMME A PENNY"]

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[MUSIC - BIG MAMA THORNTON, "GIMME A PENNY"]

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[MUSIC - BIG MAMA THORNTON, "GIMME A PENNY"]

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All right, y'all.

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In my defense, the mute button is very, very tiny.

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[LAUGHTER]

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We have Joe on the phone.

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Can everybody hear Joe?

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It wouldn't be DS-106 if we didn't find some dead air.

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I can-- yeah, we can hear him.

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All right, so--

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Or some non-dead air.

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Right, yeah.

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All right, so I'm 75%.

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That's passing grade.

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All right.

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Hey, Joe, how's it going?

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Pretty well.

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How are you?

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Oh, I'm great.

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It's good to hear you.

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Like, you bear some responsibility for this habit

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that I formed of DJing on DS-106 in the attendant music

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collection.

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Because there was a set of sets that you and Daniel were doing

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that really convinced me I could do this and would enjoy it.

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So I appreciate that.

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Oh, yeah.

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Well, guilty, I guess.

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Yeah.

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But I hope I've developed this into something like a thought.

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I think one of the really useful things about the blues

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is that it marks that communal experience.

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I think that-- and whether that's, like,

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specifically dealing with segregation or racism or poverty

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or more broadly-- I remember one of those rock documentaries

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that came out in the '90s featured-- I think it was Rufus

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Thomas saying, look, if you come home and the house is dark

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and the pans are empty and your woman is gone,

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I don't care what color you are, you have the blues.

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So I think there's a lot in the music that gives a communal

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experience.

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And I think one of the things I see from the position

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of a relatively privileged small school that

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has had some enrollment trouble lately,

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I think we could use some austerity blues so that we don't

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fall into the trap of thinking, well, it's because they did

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something wrong.

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It's because they're different.

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Or it's not coming for us because we're special.

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I think finding some ways to actually get into it

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would be healthy for us so that we

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don't hit any of those traps.

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Yeah, that's a great point.

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You know, I should point out that 80%

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of the college and university closings between 2004 and 2020

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were for-profit institutions.

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So the vast majority of school closings

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that have left students with debt and no degree

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have not been the non-profit schools,

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whether state or private.

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Or I should say public or private.

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That's one thing to put out there.

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But it's a real thing, I think, because it's

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been documented so well in Tressie McMillan Cotton's book.

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That also was a burden that was disproportionately

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shouldered by first-generation students, black students,

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and especially black women.

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Right?

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You know, I guess the other thing that I would say

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is just over half of students impacted by a school closure

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never re-enroll in college.

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And that's heartbreaking to me.

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And 52.9% is the number that I pulled.

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Wow.

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So that's another thing, I think,

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for all of higher education to acknowledge and to work around.

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Yeah.

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Well, I think that's going to be one of the things that's

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really interesting regionally.

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And I think--

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All right.

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Sorry about that, folks.

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I think I was just trying to push this thing a little too

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hard.

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But I do appreciate Joe calling in.

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And hopefully you all got to hear the excellent points he

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was making.

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It took me a minute or two to catch

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that things had locked up.

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So while I try to put everything back together here,

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I'm going to jump back in and play another tune.

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And then I'll see if I can't get Taylor back on the line.

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Again, my apologies.

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Flying a little too close to the sun, I think.

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But "Money is the Name of the Game" by Coco Taylor

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should make everything a little better.

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[VOCALIZING]

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It's a pity.

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No time in dirty sheets.

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Oh.

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It's a pity.

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It's a pity.

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Oh, dirty, dirty shame.

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How can a poor girl make it?

477
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Yeah.

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I said when money is the name of the game.

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I used to have good credit all over town.

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Signed my name, put no money down.

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Things done got tough, y'all.

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And Coco needs some.

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Now my name won't buy me a piece of the pie.

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A piece of paper, come on.

485
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:05,760
It's a pity.

486
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:19,760
Go down in dirty shame.

487
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:31,760
Tell me how can a poor girl make it?

488
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:48,760
I said when money is the name of the game.

489
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,760
[VOCALIZING]

490
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:31,760
[VOCALIZING]

491
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,760
[VOCALIZING]

492
00:42:54,760 --> 00:43:04,760
Sitting here thinking of the good times all have passed.

493
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:15,760
If I could turn back the time, I know my luck would last.

494
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:16,760
It's a pity.

495
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:30,760
Go down in dirty shame.

496
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:41,760
Tell me how can a poor girl make it?

497
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:55,760
I said when money is the name of the game.

498
00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:01,760
[VOCALIZING]

499
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:12,760
[VOCALIZING]

500
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,760
[VOCALIZING]

501
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,760
It's a dirty shame.

502
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:26,760
I killed someone.

503
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:31,760
It's a pity.

504
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:36,760
Oh, pity.

505
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:41,760
It's a pity.

506
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:42,760
It's a pity.

507
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:51,760
It's a dirty, dirty shame.

508
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:57,760
I need money.

509
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,760
That's what I want.

510
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:07,760
I need money, baby.

511
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:11,760
I need money.

512
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:16,760
That's the name of the game.

513
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:36,760
All right, well, thanks for sticking through that little

514
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:37,760
meltdown with me.

515
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:38,760
I really appreciate it.

516
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,760
And yeah, so I'm just going to talk for a minute.

517
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,760
We've got about 12 minutes left.

518
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,760
I want to play one or maybe two more songs.

519
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,760
I just want to talk a little bit about my experience at my college.

520
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:57,760
So we come out of COVID, and I think at the urging of the board

521
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:08,760
of trustees, a fancy consultancy was hired to basically give us a

522
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:15,760
health check as an institution from a competitiveness perspective.

523
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:20,760
And unsurprising to me, after we paid them money to sort of give

524
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,760
us this health check, they came back and told us that there was

525
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:29,760
an urgent situation that just absolutely had to be dealt with and

526
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,760
handed us off to other consultants who would then help us with

527
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,760
those issues that they had identified.

528
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:44,760
Again, talking about the enrollment cliff, what I think of as a

529
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:50,760
fallacy, and the reason that I say that is the national percentage.

530
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:55,760
And this is February 2023, US Census Bureau and American Community

531
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,760
Survey one-year estimate data.

532
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,760
So this is about as good as you can get in the United States on

533
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,760
levels of educational attainment.

534
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:11,760
And they tend to, the Census Bureau tends to look at 25 or older folks.

535
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,760
The national average of having completed a four-year degree is

536
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:20,760
37.7% of the population 25 years or older.

537
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:25,760
That includes four-year degree and advanced degrees.

538
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:26,760
Okay.

539
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:31,760
If you look at some college and associate degrees, that number

540
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,760
jumps up to nationally, I want to say it's in the high 40s, low 50s,

541
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,760
which is really, really great.

542
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,760
But Allentown, the city where our college is, that number for

543
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:49,760
four-year degree educational attainment for 25 and older is 20.3%.

544
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:54,760
And Allentown's demographics and composition has been changing a lot

545
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,760
over the last 15 or 20 years.

546
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:02,760
We have an increasing, growing and vibrant community of Latino folk.

547
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:10,760
And I don't think that it is ethically defensible to have a college

548
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,760
that takes the advice of consultants to say, we need to do better to

549
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:21,760
compete for this ever shrinking pool of privileged, financially well-off,

550
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:27,760
predominantly white folks who live in the Northeast and the mid-Atlantic

551
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,760
states, which was sort of the message that we got.

552
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:36,760
We're not competing for this apparently shrinking pool of folks who would

553
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,760
be our first choice to have as students.

554
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,760
Instead of taking that initiative and taking that energy and those

555
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,760
resources to say, lobby the state of Pennsylvania, which is second to

556
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,760
last in investment in higher education.

557
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:56,760
That's changed a lot under our new governor, but the early round of

558
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:01,760
resource allocation has gone as it should, in my opinion, primarily to

559
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,760
community colleges across the state of Pennsylvania.

560
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,760
But that still can't immediately address what has been decade after

561
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:17,760
decade of disinvestment and so on for higher education.

562
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:23,760
So this notion of a enrollment cliff or a demographic cliff, I think,

563
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:28,760
is disingenuous at best because what it's really talking about are folks

564
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:33,760
whose parents have college degrees, who are graduating from schools

565
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:38,760
whether public or private, that tend to feed the higher education system

566
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,760
in the United States.

567
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,760
Okay.

568
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:49,760
The last thing that I'll say is all of these initiatives that have spun

569
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,760
out of what we learned from the consultants have been to revise our

570
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,760
curriculum, which involved nearly every member of the faculty and much

571
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:02,760
of our staff in a sprint that took place in a single academic year.

572
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:10,760
And shuffling our advising, dramatic changes to how we do first-year

573
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:19,760
advising, and then also looking at potential lineouts of different majors

574
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,760
and minors, potentially even departments down the line, all of the kinds

575
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:31,760
of things that one would expect would be the advice that comes once you

576
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,760
catch the austerity blues at your institution.

577
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,760
And the other thing that sort of followed after that is we've lost a lot of

578
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,760
faculty and staff, right?

579
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,760
We've even had, for the first time in the 15 years that I've been there,

580
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:51,760
a number of layoffs that come abruptly and really impact the morale and

581
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,760
good faith, I think, of the faculty and staff that work at a college

582
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,760
or a university.

583
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,760
So we need to look out for one another.

584
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:05,760
Joe's comment, I hope everyone heard it, about how the blues is a communal

585
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:11,760
activity, the catharsis of the blues, recognizing the patterns of the blues,

586
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:18,760
how to respond when you're given an opening to take that improvisational run,

587
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:25,760
and how to sort of work within the ensemble of the blues, I think,

588
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,760
has a lot of application.

589
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:33,760
If we sit and drink our coffee or tea and have our quiet moment in the morning

590
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:39,760
and prepare for how we will respond to hearing that such and such might be

591
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:51,760
leaving or that we're overworked, which is a legitimate sort of situation,

592
00:51:51,760 --> 00:52:00,760
we need to be able to respond in a way that can recognize and acknowledge

593
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:05,760
the blues, the austerity blues, but also present a kind of a creative way

594
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,760
out of it.

595
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:14,760
And with that, I would like to play another tune, another of the great,

596
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,760
great blues names that I came across.

597
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:24,760
This is Suitcase Blues for all the faculty and staff, my dear colleagues who

598
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,760
are now no longer my colleagues.

599
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:32,760
This is by Sippy Wallace.

600
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:39,760
And here we go.

601
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,760
Any second now.

602
00:52:53,760 --> 00:53:02,760
Well, my suitcase is packed, trunk is undone.

603
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:07,760
You know by that I ain't gonna be here long.

604
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:20,760
But I'm scared to go down that big road by myself.

605
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:33,760
Lord, I'm scared to go down that big road by myself.

606
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:46,760
I love you, baby, but your wings I just can't stand.

607
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:12,760
So you get you another woman, I'll get me another man.

608
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:25,760
'Cause there ain't no loving, there ain't no getting along.

609
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:53,760
Now, you know, baby, you've always treated me wrong.

610
00:54:53,760 --> 00:55:00,760
No more baby, she runs me crazy.

611
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:07,760
I ain't got me no more baby, Lord.

612
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:18,760
I ain't got me no more baby, Lord.

613
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:32,760
Lord, I ain't got me no more baby now.

614
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:45,760
I'm leaving you, honey, but it almost breaks my heart.

615
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:58,760
I'm leaving you, papa, but it almost breaks my heart.

616
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:12,760
But remember sometimes that the best of friends must part.

617
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:25,760
I hear the whistles blowing, I guess I'll be on my way.

618
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:50,760
Give me my suitcase and I'll see you some other day.

619
00:56:50,760 --> 00:57:00,760
Suitcase Blues, Sippy Wallace.

620
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:07,760
And as I'm getting ready to wrap things up, I'm just going to close with this.

621
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:13,760
Blond Willie Johnson's Dark Was the Night, Cold Was the Ground

622
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:19,760
was etched into two golden records called the Voyager Golden Record

623
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:25,760
that were launched into space in 1977, one on each of the Voyager spacecraft.

624
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,760
And both are now billions of miles from the sun,

625
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:36,760
one 15 billion miles plus and the other 12 billion miles away from Earth.

626
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,760
Voyager 1 is the farthest human-made object.

627
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:48,760
And on both of those spacecraft is a blues song, a beautiful blues song,

628
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,760
Dark Was the Night, Cold Was the Ground.

629
00:57:52,760 --> 00:58:01,760
So that just helps me to put into perspective the true contribution that the blues has made,

630
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,760
not just in our culture, but across the world.

631
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:09,760
And if you get a chance to listen to that song, I'd encourage you to do it.

632
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:14,760
Anyway, thanks everyone for your time and for listening.

633
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:18,760
Sorry about that one little glitch, and I hope we can do it again soon.

